When launched, Ashitaka would have boasted a very high speed and carried ten 410 mm guns. While she has Amagi’s broadside, her accuracy is worse. So the secondaries on the ZAO and Kii for instance. Like maybe not having the fucking worst concealment of any T8 BB coupled with below-average main battery range and a complete lack of HE resistance. Kii’s fish are similar to those found on Tirpitz, with 14,400 alpha damage but a 10 km range. This Fletcher needed backup; Kii brings her guns to bear. The Japanese version of the 40mm Bofors had a defective fuse design which limited its effective range to ~3.0 km. A(4/5): Also, I will double-check Kii performance, but I don't recall her needing a buff tbh. No. Regardless of the increase in protection, the designers sought not to make the new class of ships sluggish, and as such ensured that the Kii-class could attain speeds close to 30 knots. Progress on 'Kii and her sisters was halted prior to their keels ever being laid down, and they were officially cancelled in 1924. Graf is covered in distributed armor, which nullifies the 100mms even with the pen buff and IFHE. So far I have finished grinding Japanese, German and American BB lines. Kii has 10 16in guns, torps (which used to be Tirpitz’ gimmick too but whatever), and amazing AA. Sierra Bravo+10% action time of Hydroacoustic Search-10% reload time of Defensive AA Fire. First of all. This friendly New Orleans must be avenged! It stated all battleships above the displacement of 35,000 tonnes would be scrapped forthwith, and as the Kii-class was above 42,000 tonnes, the treaty spelled their termination. Grease the Gears+20% main turret traverse speed. Standardized on the Nagato-class battleships, the Japanese found no error in carrying the same armament over for their latest projects. Shikishima was a further development of the Yamato-class battleships, also known as the Super Yamato class. Aiming Systems Modification 1 () is typically recommended for ship to ship combat. The torps are trash with short range, only four per side, and terrible arcs. If one wants to look at it from another perspective, she's technically force-downtiered and nerfed, like every other Premium IJN BB to date except Ishizuchi and Mikasa. The Kii-class battleships were canceled as a result of the Washington Naval Treaty in 1922.Kii was first released for sale worldwide on 22 September 2017. Otherwise, captains are encourage to pursue a cookie-cutter survivability based battleship, choosing skills to help Kii stay afloat longer. Such an arrangement allowed for a broadside weight of about 10,000 kg flying at sub-800m/s. Adrenaline Rush-0.2% reload time of all armaments per 1% HP lost+0.2% AA continuous damage per 1% HP lost. How much rof and torp buff affected her? With guns. This page was last modified on 26 January 2021, at 03:14. Flag of Kii. Super-Heavy AP Shells+5% AP shell damage+30% fire and flood duration. The community loves the Massachusetts because it is fun, but everyone agrees that it is not competitive, and the community agrees that the Kii is simply shit. I love me some Amagi-class Battleships that can brawl :). Wyvern+50% credits earned for the battle. Papa Papa+300% Free XP earned for the battle. Pyrotechnician+1% chance of main and secondary HE shells causing a fire. Its becoming annoying how lazy it is. The firing arcs of each launcher are generous and reminiscent of Admiral Graf Spee, enabling torpedo salvos from 40 degrees off the bow all the way back to nearly the stern of the ship. All of this combines to give Kii an anti-aircraft suite nearly equivalent to American Tier VIII battleship North Carolina, much to the dismay of enemy carrier captains looking for an easy target. Expert AA MarksmanIn the priority AA sector: +25% continuous damage. You only have 8 100mm barrels per side but with the HE pen buff you can pen 32mm plating with IFHE which means if you take the torps into account this ship is screaming for a brawler focused makeover. Historically, Tier VIII premium Japanese battleship Kii was designed as a follow-on to the Amagi-class battlecruisers with thicker belt armor with slightly lower speed. Furthermore, it was angled out 15˚ from vertical. A unique addition to round out the offensive complement of the new battleships, designers opted to install eight torpedo-tube launchers on traverseable above-water mounts. Incoming Fire AlertReceive a warning about a salvo fired at your ship from more than 4.5 km. Captains looking to further improve the ship’s anti-aircraft battery should mount November Echo Setteseven () flags. Gun Feeder-50% time to switch loaded shell type. I think WG should give the Kii 7.7 KM base secondary range, and buff the accuracy as well so that the IJN line can have their very own fun to play T8 secondary BB. She needs something to make her shine. The Kii already has garbage nerfed dispersion as compensation for having torps. She mounts the same main battery armament as her tech tree cousin — though they are a touch less accurate, reload one second slower, and have shorter range — in the same turret layout, and has comparable handling characteristics and surface/aerial detection values. And her position has only gotten worse. She would still be naturally nerfed due to effectively using the same guns as Nagato and Amagi, rather than Izumo, and likely still have a short secondary gun range, making a secondary spec questionable. +1 flak burst per salvo. This upgrade is useful because it provides Kii with more ability to disengage to repair sustained damage, especially when paired with the Concealment Expert commander skill. Each buff area activates 2 minutes after spawning. This upgrade increases the survivability of AA and secondary battery mounts. cutterbacon. Her main battery reload still remains longer than the reload of the Amagi but let’s be happy with this buff. World of Warships AP penetration calculator Beta 0.71 Now can compare ships between different versions. There you go. Improved Secondary Battery Aiming-35% dispersion of secondary shells against primary target.Primary target must be manually selected. Amagi with its 10 guns and troll armor, the venerable North Carolina which needs no introduction, Alabama with its maneuverability and torpedo protection, Bismarck and Tirpitz and their singing secondaries, hydro/torps and turtleback(though these sisters are definitely in a tough spot these days due to MM and power creep) and the often misunderstood, black sheep of the British BB family but the oh so sneaky Monarch. I haven’t played Roma but she seems well loved and it’s a good fight every time I go up against someone who knows what their doing in her. Reply. I would love to see it though. Reply. Light and dark green camouflage was only applied to aircraft carriers in 1944. r/WorldOfWarships: A game about huge boats. If they nerfed the main gun accuracy, it would be fair since she'd be focused on getting closer to make use of her own torpedoes while still being able to tank some incoming torpedoes, as well as tank some incoming shots. Hide buff: -5% to Surface Detection Cooldown buff: –10% to … This means that virtually all battleships in her matchmaking spread and even large cruisers such as Stalingrad and Alaska are capable of overmatching it (apart from lower caliber guns like the ones on Scharnhorst). Odin is a German Tier VIII premium battleship, and takes the slot next to Tirpitz.. Long-Range Secondary Battery Shells+20% secondary battery firing range. This upgrade is most effective when the ship's commander is specialized with commander skills, including Basic Firing Training, Advanced Firing Training, and Manual Fire Control for AA Armament. As a result, Kii captains must be very careful with her positioning; she can take extreme amounts of damage if her turtleback is penetrated at virtually any range and any angle. ST 0.10.2 Buffs 'n' Nerfs to Premium and Researchable Test Ships. The projected completion date would be late 1923, but the year 1922 would change all that. Or is she destined to remain worse than Amagi in main gun performance and armor? Upgrade Slot 5 provides two options. Technically there's Mikasa, which literally depends on those secondary guns to get by, but at t2 this is really only mentioned for the sake of it, and she's hard to use even against bots. She is more vulnerable when broadside thanks to her thinner turtleback armor section and worse torpedo protection system (TPS), which provides roughly half the protection of Amagi’s TPS; subsequently, Kii is significantly more vulnerable to ship-launched torpedoes. Amagi and even Kii right now have ok survivability if they angle right. The second option is Torpedo Lookout System (). Well, it has torpedoes, does it not? But RNGod help you if you miss even at that range; 32s of reload will pretty much guarantee the loss of a second chance as you pass by. Leave the Kii’s secondaries as they are, 1/6th penetration and all, and fix something relevant to the ship’s role on the team as an IJN BB. Kii has some fairly noteworthy differences from Amagi, though. Then the French BBs came around and because going crazy fast apparently wasnt good enough, they gave them that too. Captains comfortable conning Amagi will enjoy Kii once they learn to adapt to those differences. Preventive Maintenance-30% chance of main armament, engines, steering becoming incapacitated. For those about to die, Bad Advice Captain salutes you! No. She's got torps and is very similar to the Amagi. If you nerf the gun accuracy, and leave the typical IJN armor scheme intact, you basically gutted the ship. World of Warships ST – a lot of buff – Izumo, Kii, Nagato and Hood. The ships listed below showed a statistical lag among the ships of their tier and class. Lacks the powerful secondary armament and torpedo defense system of sister ship. While at first glance Kii may appear to be merely an Amagi with torpedoes, she has some key differences which encourage a very different style of play. For the most part the design team has done really well with this particular tier and class type. Her inner AA ring is flooded with copious quantities of standard Japanese triple-mount 25mm guns. Actual planned anti-aircraft complement was four single 120 mm guns. Red Dragon+100% XP earned for the battle.+100% Commander XP earned for the battle. She'd still be limited by only being able to fire once every 30s, and still having lower traverse than true brawlers, so at best she'd only be a drive-by harasser. This high-speed battleship was designed under the 1920 shipbuilding program. Since the IJN 100MM mounts are getting the 1\4th HE treatment maybe it is time to look at the Kii again and make some improvements. Kii could have been uptiered to T9 as an FXP ship, keeping all of Amagi's strengths (accuracy, TDS, reload, and armoring) and just adding the torps, 10cm DPs, and HP values for T9. It doesnt need more. The armament for the Kii-class was never fully standardized in the designs, but the most common proposal was to mount ten 410 mm/45 Type 3 guns in 5 turrets: two forward, two aft, and one amidships. Plus the bismark has a high volume of fire from its secondaries. And yet their DPM crushes Kutuzov, about 40k larger than 155mm Mogami and only 7k less than Seattle. Consumables Enhancement+10% action time of: Hydroacoustic Search (), Surveillance Radar (), Smoke Generator (), & Engine Boost (). India Delta+20% to the amount of HP recovered when the Repair Party consumable is used. What have we done to deserve this, Wargaming? Kii features a significantly improved AA suite, comprised of 100mm dual-purpose mounts for her long-range bubble — instead of the slower-firing 127mm batteries generally found on Japanese capital ships of the era — and large numbers of the Japanese variant of the 40mm Bofors that make US and Royal Navy mid-range AA so punishing. With guns. The main armament of Odin is very small for a battleship at that tier. 2 - Mikasa 4 - Ishizuchi 6 - Mutsu 7 - Ashitaka 8 - Kii 8 - Ignis Purgatio 8 - Ragnarok 9 - Musashi 10 - Shikishima. Lastly, economic and special signal flags can be mounted to further increase the ship’s experience and credit gain per battle. Conceptually, Kii-class battleships were Amagi-class battlecruisers that traded speed for more protection. Victor Lima+1% chance of causing a fire for bombs and shells with a caliber above 160mm.+0.5% chance of causing a fire for bombs and shells with a caliber below 160mm.+4% chance of flooding (against your ship). There are four buff types, and each of them can be stacked up to three times. Emergency Repair ExpertDamage Control Party () and Repair Party ():+1 charge (each).+10% action time . The first is Main Armaments Modification 1 (), which increases the survivability and reduces repair time of the main armament. As a sister to Amagi and of the same tier, Kii can equip the following consumables: As a premium ship, Kii comes included with Type 10 camouflage that lowers her detection radius, reduces the accuracy of incoming shells, reduces her repair costs, and increases the amount of experience she earns. ... source – wows devs blog on FB. I used to say that every tier VIII battleship was well balanced and fun to play. Further differentiating Kii from Amagi are her two triple-tube torpedo launchers, one each mounted port and starboard near her stern. When you enter one of these areas after its activation, you will receive the buff instantly. I'd 100% recommend you to grind the Japanese line first as they are consistent (no massively worse ship after t5) and their characteristic (good accuracy + hard hitting guns) fit the camping meta of … To do so, they would install no less than 19 oil-fired boilers that fed to 4-geared turbines. Equal Speed Charlie London+50% XP earned for the battle. 1 Training Room 2 During Battle 3 Rewards and Consumables 4 Blitz Royale Improvements 5 Fleet Challenge Overhaul 6 Additional Spectator Modes 7 Shipyard Rotation 8 Legendary Equipment 9 Other Additions 10 Free XP Tutorial 11 Team Victory Blitz 12 Team Bonus Events 13 Bug Fixes 14 Developer Post Create a Training Room, customize the battle, and invite your friends to join. The most advanced British aircraft carrier of World War II. The ship was a further development of the Amagi-class battleship design. She was inferior to her foreign counterparts of comparable dimensions in terms of the number of aircraft her air group comprised, but boasted a conceptual advantage that enhanced the ship's survivability—an armored flight deck. Alternatively, if they really wanted to keep her at T8, they just had to either nerf the TDS or just the main gun accuracy some, and leave the armor and main gun reload time alone. I understand now she has had a bit of a buff and I was wondering if any one here had her … Ashitaka was first released for sale worldwide on 1 December … Yuzuru Hiraga, famed Japanese naval architect and lead designer of Kii. Auto theoretical dpm is different to player input dpm. Nothing more, nothing less. Highest surface detectability range of all Tier VIII battleships. WG have adjusted the parameters of some ships based on testing results. ST. Balance changes. Kii needs love, but not this kind of love. Mike Yankee Soxisix+5% to secondary battery maximum firing range.-5% to maximum dispersion of secondary battery shells.-5% to secondary battery loading time. In total, this generated over 130,000 shaft horsepower. What have we done to deserve this, Wargaming? February 6, 2019 at 1:25 am +cutterbacon wow same! Not all four. Concealment Expert-10% detectability range of the ship. Home News WarGaming news World of Warships. Kii is a goddamn travesty, there’s no reason she should be gimped as much as she is. Inertial Fuse for HE Shells+25% armor penetration of HE shells.Base fire chance reduced by half. The firing arcs of each launcher are generous and reminiscent of Admiral Graf Spee , enabling torpedo salvos from 40 degrees off the bow all the way back to nearly the stern of the ship. Some time ago I was looking at the Ashitaka with a view to including her in my collection. Nor does her armor allow her to kite or brawl very well which is where I could see her torpedoes being somewhat useful. don't make Bisco cry by giving more ships better FPM, DPM range AND accuracy. Ashitaka — Japanese premium Tier VII battleship.. Ashitaka would have been the fourth battlecruiser of the Amagi-class.She was laid down in 1921 but was never completed; instead, she was cancelled and broken up for scrap in 1924. Battleship and Destroyer Buffs - World of Warships - YouTube Her overall AA is only on par with NC, but the long-range AA is what most care for, in which case she does have slightly better, but not enough to warrant all the nerfs; specifically, to her reload time (32s), her TDS, her armor, and her accuracy. Kii can mount 21 signal flags simultaneously. I would just advise you if you see a friendly Kii near you to be careful to torpedoes. She's far less vulnerable than Amagi to aerial torpedoes, however. November Foxtrot-5% reload time on all consumables. A teamkill can happen quickly. The first heavy cruiser within Japan's cruiser tree and one of the first heavy cruisers in the game, Furutaka carries a powerful complement of six 203mm guns after upgrading from the 200mm, allowing her to deal with anything she encounters. February 5, 2019 at 10:32 pm. Shikishima — Japanese Tier X battleship. I_NAMELESS_I. Gunboats. Speed buff: +5% to Maximum Speed +5% to Maximum Traverse Speed. It’s like somebody wanted to make a fun ship but then forgot to add the things that make her characteristics fun. Leave the torps as is but buff secondary range and give it the higher pen shells. Kii needs its Citadel Roof Armor buffed and the guns ungimped. Best long-range anti-aircraft suite of all Tier VIII battleships. Whoopty doo. High all. Incredible broadside firepower, with ten 410mm guns on 5 turrets that can do up to 12,600 damage per shell. And now Massachusetts which doesn’t seem like the best ship but sounds super fun. Oh, and she’s a half knot slower than her “cousin”. The recommended upgrades for Kii are as follows: Upgrade Slot 1 provides two viable options. Priority TargetThe detection indicator will show the number of enemies targeting you with main battery. Nine 305mm guns, distributed among three triple turrets, is comparable to … The last thing we should be doing is giving WG ideas on how to say “see, look, we buffed it like you asked” without actually doing anything meaningful. All major naval powers convened in Washington and in a few days ratified the eponymous naval treaty that would curb this foreseeable resurgence in naval competition. So engaging. Although speed has always been a decisive factor in combat, the eponymous battle made it clear that sacrificing protection is not an intelligent decision. Press J to jump to the feed. All rights reserved. Sierra Mike+5% to the ship's maximum speed. You have obviously never played either the Kii or the Massachusetts. EDIT: Forgot about the French speedsters Richelieu and Gascone; haven’t played the later but Richelieu is a ton of fun. Hydra+50% XP earned for the battle.+150% Commander XP earned for the battle.+250% Free XP earned for the battle. Dragon Flag+333% Commander XP earned for the battle. Here is a preview of the Kii, a Tier 8 premium IJN battleship. Kii needs its Citadel Roof Armor buffed and … Q(5/5): In regards to Submarine experimentation, would Radar be able to detect snorkeled submarines? I was watching Notser play it a little while ago and he wasn't impressed. Gunboats. When a player obtains a buff, they can tap on the buff icon to check the details of it. Now the armor penetration of these shells is aligned with the new HE shell penetration of Tier VIII - X ships with 152-155 mm caliber guns, the same as before the changes. Upon the eve of the First World War, the Imperial Japanese government had approved the latest 1918 Naval Construction program; dubbed the “six-eight” fleet, calling for six new battleships and eight new battlecruisers. cutterbacon. As such, the Kii-class was a step in amalgamating speed and armor; the conception of the fast battleship. Emergency Repair Specialist-3% cooldown time of Damage Control Party () and Repair Party (). Good usage of Spotting Aircraft () is key to long range shots. India X-Ray+1% chance of causing a fire for bombs and shells with a caliber above 160mm.+0.5% chance of causing a fire for bombs and shells with a caliber below 160mm.+5% to the risk of your ship's magazine detonating. Scylla+50% XP earned for the battle.+150% Commander XP earned for the battle.+25% credits earned for the battle. Concealment System Modification 1 () reduces ship detectability and increases dispersion of enemy shells fired at the player's ship. Both options are viable, and the decision between the two is mostly down to personal preference. 2 despite having almost nothing in common with the Type93 mod. Zulu Hotel+50% Commander XP earned for the battle. On the other hand, Hakuryu's armor is concentrated on the flight deck and main armor belt, with the rest of the ship being free HE damage.Graf with IFHE can also get her 105s to pen those unarmored bits, and her 150s do it innately. Relevant in maybe 1 in 10 games and not a very fun aspect to balance a ship around. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast, More posts from the WorldOfWarships community. Leaderboards, ships statistics and configurations, ranked and team battles and much much more But she seemed to have a bit of a meh reputation from those who had her. Despite the fact that this was already taxing the national budget by a third, the Navy proposed to extend the plan to “eight-eight” in order to maintain closer parity with the United States, whom declared in 1919 they would resume their 1916 Naval construction plan of 10 battleships and 6 battlecruisers. Im a IJN dd main and im not sure if Kii or Kidd lol. Ouroboros+777% Free XP earned for the battle. November Foxtrot () is also recommended to decrease the cool down on the Repair Party () and Damage Control Party () consumables. Thin citadel plating means that she will be citadelled with ease from many battleships she will face. Implacable — British Tier VIII aircraft сarrier.. Except the Bismark gets hydro and better concealment along with a shorter reload. As she is currently, not even a full secondary build with some upgraded range would really help her out unless she got Republique's level of range, which is also the overall range she can actually start hitting things with any consistency. Never submarines, they said. Another downside of Kii compared to Amagi is that Kii’s citadel deck armor is only 22mm thick. But I don’t see how they would pull it off...IJN BBs are known for accurate guns and a desire to keep range and avoid brawls. A new T8 Battleship is in World of Warships and its a great mix of a lot of other Battleships. Kii, however, is kind of a pile of crap. Then you should wait until you the new crown of noobscooters they call it republique and it's just so far away from any other bb except the armor otherwise she outclass all other bbs that are in the game. If they nerfed the TDS, she'd just be an Amagi with torpedoes, but not able to utilize them often due to having a horrible TDS, but being able to make use of them in vs BB situations where she herself isn't under major threat by torpedoes (late game when enemy BBs are more likely to be caught alone). India Bravo Terrathree-10% to the cost of the ship's post-battle repair. Given that Kii has a distinctly un-Japanese AA battery for a battleship, it might well be worth investing in captain skills designed to take advantage of this. … Q: Since the Kii was released I've been wondering about her torpedoes. Fire Prevention Expert-10% risk of fire.Three fires maximum. Juliet Yankee Bissotwo-20% to flooding duration. Moreso since Kii was supposed to be a successor design to Amagi, and technically a bit better. Juliet Whiskey Unaone+15% chance of causing flooding.+5% to the risk of your ship's magazine detonating. Unfortunately, when compared to her tech tree cousin, Kii gives up a lot for access to torpedoes and an AA suite similar to American battleships. Players wishing to specialize in AA should mount AA Guns Modification 1 (). The torpedoes have terrible arcs and an anemic range to boot. The are completely useless. It has strengths over the other secondary ships but also weaknesses that would make it difficult to brawl in (for example the armour).